Abiding in the Vine V

Abiding in the Vine VWednesday 06/17/15

 

Series: Abiding in the Vine V

 

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Abiding in the Vine V

  1. Abiding is to be and remain vitally united with our Vine(Jesus), one with Him in heart, mind, and will.
  2. Three recurring themes in the verses we are looking at are…
    1. Obey His commands
    2. Love the brethren
    3. Sensitivity and submission to the Holy Spirit
  3. Loving the brethren – If we love the brethren, there is no cause for stumbling in us.

 

 

Let’s read our key verse,

John 15:2  Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit.”

We are looking again at the pruning of the vines. Jesus says those who ARE producing fruit, the Father PRUNES.

I described pruning a few times to you when I told you that pruning (Kath-ah-ee-ro) as in verse 2 and cleaning (kath-ar-os) as in verse 3 are the same thing.

In verse 2 a pruning knife is used, while in verse 3 God’s Word is used.

So, POP QUIZ…..what does this pruning or cleaning represent? Reproof, correction & instruction.

“For the word of God is living and effective and sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating as far as to divide soul, spirit, joints, and marrow; it is a judge of the ideas, thoughts and intentions of the heart.”  ~ Heb. 4:12

 

“All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”  ~ 2Tim. 3:16-17

 

Jesus said He had separated the disciples from the world by the truth, then He said, “Your Word is Truth”, in John 17.

 

Now, before Teri & I had took off for the tenting of the house I had ended my teaching on May the 20th on this topic of pruning or correction. We had read through Hebrews 12 to see what God had to say about personal one on one correction between the Father and ourselves.

Tonight, we are going to look at an example of correction coming through the body and see if it also results in producing more fruit.

Churches conducive to pruning

AS WE LOOK AT THIS I NEED you to pay attention to the fact that a Godly church is being called upon to monitor and respond to sin in their midst, NOT to just “love them through it”.

This requires that a local church be involved enough to even know what is going on in the lives of its members.

This is one of the reasons, I’ve stressed the need for involvement in each others lives OUTSIDE of the church here!

 

We have one distinct advantage in that we are small!

The larger a church gets the more impossible this command becomes.

However, there is another very real danger for the small church…smaller churches often become over familiar and therefore apathetic.

 

You see the draw of a large church is its facilities, its abundance, its activities, its large community feel which are all good so long as it can still function as a sheepfold and the Elders and their sheep are still very familiar with one another and very involved in each others lives.

 

However, more often than not, this large church dynamic allows for a feeling of communal involvement – without HAVING to be truly connected with anyone at all.

 

 

In churches like this it is more about whether the church has enough resources, or special classes to accommodate my desires or meet MY needs than it is about intimate communal where I am GIVING as much as I am RECEIVING.

It deceives the member into feeling a part of something really powerful and meaningful when in reality it is just big.

Conclusion                                                                                                                                                                                   So in order to work out the “pruning of the vines” you need a church that is the right size and contentedness among the members and the elders, otherwise they will fail in this command and regardless of size, (large or small) they will become ineffective in true ministry and spiritual growth.

 

Let’s take a look at this topic in 1 Cor. 5

v1.          has – means a continued action. This was not a trip into sin, it was continual and accepted by both the two involved and the church as large…maybe even the woman’s actual husband.

V5.         To deliver – Spoken of persons and things delivered over to the charge of someone else. In the general sense of delivering over to do or suffer something, to give up or over, to surrender or to permit.

For the destruction of the fleshThe fundamental thought is not annihilation by any means, but unavoidable distress and torment.

V6.         Your glorying – your boasting.

Many churches today do everything they can to become “seeker friendly” which of course encourages growth since it excludes no one. People with all manner of sin are not only allowed, but encourage to come. This is why we have experienced such a massive boast in Mega churches. The days of the small 30-150 member Baptist churches are nearly extinct and there is a reason for this. People prefer it that way!

In a large church….

  1. You can get lost – very few people actually really know you comparative to your size.
  2. You don’t know many people well enough, for them to really know if you are putting on a mask.
  3. You have to work much harder to be involved enough with individuals enough to care deeply about and be committed to those around you.
  4. Finally, sin has plenty of room to hide. If a member were to get divorced and remarried for unscriptural reasons – very few would know it and almost certainly the elders wouldn’t know. Or, if a young daughter were showing undo affection for her father-in-law, it wouldn’t necessarily be picked up on.

Many churches today boast about how they do not discriminate against anyone – “ALL ARE WELCOME” – they say, but what do you think Paul would say about that? Well let’s look at verse 9-11,

“I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.”

Churches are supposed to be a safe place were genuine sheep gather and are shepherded and cared for – where teaching facilitates growth and does not hide sin.

QUESTION:

If a member were to be living in homosexual sin in many of the churches you know – even ones that “look good” – do you think it would be brought to the elders (assuming they have any)….and if so, would that one be confronted in their sin?

Would the elders visit them and seek their repentance so that they may be restored?

Would the elders even know the person exists or know their name?

If the elders went to them, would that very likely be the first time that particular church member even actually physically MET their elders?

How much of the congregation is affected by the sin of ONE? ( a little leaven)

Restoration

But what happens if the disciplined brother repents, having turned from his sin?

Paul deals with this in 2 Cor.  2:1-11,

But I determined this within myself, that I would not come again to you in sorrow.  (2)  For if I make you sorrowful, then who is he who makes me glad but the one who is made sorrowful by me?  (3)  And I wrote this very thing to you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow over those from whom I ought to have joy, having confidence in you all that my joy is the joy of you all.  (4)  For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote to you, with many tears, not that you should be grieved, but that you might know the love which I have so abundantly for you.  (5)  But if anyone has caused grief, he has not grieved me, but all of you to some extent—not to be too severe.  (6)  This punishment which was inflicted by the majority is sufficient for such a man,  (7)  so that, on the contrary, you ought rather to forgive and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one be swallowed up with too much sorrow.  (8)  Therefore I urge you to reaffirm your love to him.  (9)  For to this end I also wrote, that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things.  (10)  Now whom you forgive anything, I also forgive. For if indeed I have forgiven anything, I have forgiven that one for your sakes in the presence of Christ,  (11)  lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.”

 

2 Cor. 7:1-12 (Vs. 1 CLEANSE – same family of words as purge and clean in Jn. 15)

“Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.  (2)  Open your hearts to us. We have wronged no one, we have corrupted no one, we have cheated no one.  (3)  I do not say this to condemn; for I have said before that you are in our hearts, to die together and to live together.  (4)  Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my boasting on your behalf. I am filled with comfort. I am exceedingly joyful in all our tribulation.  (5)  For indeed, when we came to Macedonia, our bodies had no rest, but we were troubled on every side. Outside were conflicts, inside were fears.  (6)  Nevertheless God, who comforts the downcast, comforted us by the coming of Titus,  (7)  and not only by his coming, but also by the consolation with which he was comforted in you, when he told us of your earnest desire, your mourning, your zeal for me, so that I rejoiced even more.  (8)  For even if I made you sorry with my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it. For I perceive that the same epistle made you sorry, though only for a while.  (9)  Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing.  (10)  For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.  (11)  For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter.  (12)  Therefore, although I wrote to you, I did not do it for the sake of him who had done the wrong, nor for the sake of him who suffered wrong, but that our care for you in the sight of God might appear to you.”

In the end, this corporate form of correction produced fruit just like the correction God does with us as individuals did!

The pruning of the vines always produces MORE fruit!

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Hi my name is Mark and though I am opposed to titles, I am currently the only Pastor (shepherd/elder) serving our assembly right now.

I have been Pastoring in one capacity or another for nearly 30 years now, though never quite like I am today.

Early in 2009 the Lord revealed to me that the way we had structured our assembly (church) was not scriptural in that it was out of sync with what Paul modeled for us in the New Testament. In truth, I (like many pastors I am sure) never even gave this fundamental issue of church structure the first thought. I had always assumed that church structure was largely the same everywhere and had been so from the beginning. While I knew Paul had some very stringent things to say about the local assembly of believers, the point of our gatherings together and who may or may not lead, I never even considered studying these issues but assumed we were all pretty much doing it right...safety in numbers right?! Boy, I couldn't have been more wrong!

So needless to say, my discovery that we had been doing it wrong for nearly two decades was a bit of a shock to me! Now, this "revelation" did not come about all at once but over the course of a few weeks. We were a traditional single pastor led congregation. It was a top-bottom model of ministry which is in part biblical, but not in the form of a monarchy.

The needed change did not come into focus until following 9 very intense months of study and discussions with those who were leaders in our church at the time.

We now understand and believe that the Bible teaches co-leadership with equal authority in each local assembly. Having multiple shepherds with God's heart and equal authority protects both Shepherds and sheep. Equal accountability keeps authority and doctrine in check. Multiple shepherds also provide teaching with various styles and giftings with leadership skills which are both different and complementary.

For a while we had two co-pastors (elders) (myself and one other man) who led the church with equal authority, but different giftings. We both taught in our own ways and styles, and our leadership skills were quite different, but complimentary. We were in complete submission to each other and worked side-by-side in the labor of shepherding the flock.

Our other Pastor has since moved on to other ministry which has left us with just myself. While we currently only have one Pastor/Elder, it is our desire that God, in His faithfulness and timing, may bring us more as we grow in maturity and even in numbers.

As to my home, I have been married since 1995 to my wonderful wife Terissa Woodson who is my closest friend and most trusted ally.

As far as my education goes, I grew up in a Christian home, but questioned everything I was ever taught.

I graduated from Bible college in 1990 and continued to question everything I was ever taught (I do not mention my college in order to avoid being labeled).

Perhaps my greatest preparation for ministry has been life and ministry itself. To quote an author I have come to enjoy namely Fredrick Buechner in his writing entitled, Now and Then, "If God speaks to us at all other than through such official channels as the Bible and the church, then I think that He speaks to us largely through what happens to us...if we keep our hearts open as well as our ears, if we listen with patience and hope, if we remember at all deeply and honestly, then I think we come to recognize beyond all doubt, that, however faintly we may hear Him, He is indeed speaking to us, and that, however little we may understand of it, His word to each of us is both recoverable and precious beyond telling." ~ Fredrick Buechner

Well that is about all there is of interest to tell you about me.

I hope our ministry here is a blessing to you and your family. I also hope that it is only a supplement to a local church where you are committed to other believers in a community of grace.

~God Bless!