The Pursuit of God – Chapter 5c

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Wednesday 02/24/16 

Series: The Pursuit of God

Message –  The Universal Presence III

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{The audio is divided into two sections. The 1st is where we read through part of the chapter and divide into groups for discussion. The 2nd is when we come back together as and share from our groups.}

 

Last week we considered the question about how we most often perceive our relationship with the Holy Spirit as that of…

  1. A teacher with a student
  2. A parent with a child
  3. A mentor with an apprentice
  4. A co-laborer who works WITH you.

 

Several of you agreed that seeing Him as the One Who co-labors with us, is something that would help you in your daily walk – especially while seeking to become more aware of His ever present “presence”.

 

Q. Did you take steps to view Him this week as your helper? If so, how did that effect your awareness of Him? If not, what are you going to do to change that this week?

Q. As you consider the Holy Spirit as a co-laborer WITH you in the Kingdom – How does your thinking change from what it was before – how does “thinking that way” change things?

 

Part of the malady that effects Christians is their tendency to judge their spiritual progress against the perception they hold of their siblings (in Christ) spiritual progress.

 

Tozer hinted at this when he said, “We have been too blind to see, or too timid to speak out, or too self satisfied to desire anything better than the poor average diet with which others appear satisfied. To put it differently, we have accepted one another’s notions, copied one another’s lives and made one another’s experiences the model for our own.” While this may not be done purposefully, it IS in fact still done. We have a tendency towards a herd mentality but God would have us otherwise focused.

 

Paul said,

For we have not the ‘courage’ to rank ourselves among, or compare ourselves with, certain persons distinguished by their self-worthiness. Yet they are not wise, measuring themselves, as they do, by one another and comparing themselves with one another.” – 2 Cor. 10:12

That having been said, scripture also says,

 “(7) For you yourselves know that it is your duty to follow our example. There was no disorder in our lives among you (8) nor did we eat any one’s bread without paying for it, but we labored and toiled, working hard night and day in order not to be a burden to any of you.  (9) This was not because we had not a claim upon you, but it arose from a desire to set you an example–for you to imitate us.”  ~ 2Thess 3:7-9

“Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of God to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct.” ~ Heb. 13:7

 

Q. There is a persistent human desire to be like others. We don’t want to stand out and be the ‘odd ball’. This often springs (at least in part) out of our desire for acceptance and status. We look to others for our validation. Even those who seem to take pleasure in being different, do so out of a need to protect themselves from rejection which is just the opposite side of the same coin. Why do you believe there is SUCH a strong pull towards being like everyone else?

Q. Why do we believe there is safety in numbers? Looking back in your memory over scripture and even world history, is there really any noteworthy support for the notion that there is safety in numbers?

 

Q. What unnecessary dangers do people make themselves open to by seeking to be like others in their spiritual practices…meaning, how they worship, how they ‘draw near’ to God, where they worship, their friends, life habits…etc.?

 

Q. If we are not to use each other as a measuring stick for our personal spiritual progress – how do we assess our advancement?

 

Q. Clearly, leaders are supposed to be a “safe” example, yet we know that this is not always the case – even among those who are living Godly lives. How can we follow, leaders as Scripture tells us to and still avoid falling into any errors they might fall into?

 

Q. Spend some time talking about this statement Tozer made in closing out this chapter….

“Let any man turn to God in earnest, let him begin to exercise himself unto godliness, let him seek to develop his powers of spiritual receptivity by trust and obedience and humility, and the results will exceed anything he may have hoped in his leaner and weaker days. Any man who by repentance and a sincere return to God will break himself out of the mold in which he has been held, and will go to the Bible itself for his spiritual standards, will be delighted with that he finds there…We will know Him in increasing degree as our receptivity becomes more perfect by faith and love and practice.”

 

 

This is where we left off this week. We will most likely resume from here next Wednesday…Blessings! 

 

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Hi my name is Mark and though I am opposed to titles, I am currently the only Pastor (shepherd/elder) serving our assembly right now.

I have been Pastoring in one capacity or another for nearly 30 years now, though never quite like I am today.

Early in 2009 the Lord revealed to me that the way we had structured our assembly (church) was not scriptural in that it was out of sync with what Paul modeled for us in the New Testament. In truth, I (like many pastors I am sure) never even gave this fundamental issue of church structure the first thought. I had always assumed that church structure was largely the same everywhere and had been so from the beginning. While I knew Paul had some very stringent things to say about the local assembly of believers, the point of our gatherings together and who may or may not lead, I never even considered studying these issues but assumed we were all pretty much doing it right...safety in numbers right?! Boy, I couldn't have been more wrong!

So needless to say, my discovery that we had been doing it wrong for nearly two decades was a bit of a shock to me! Now, this "revelation" did not come about all at once but over the course of a few weeks. We were a traditional single pastor led congregation. It was a top-bottom model of ministry which is in part biblical, but not in the form of a monarchy.

The needed change did not come into focus until following 9 very intense months of study and discussions with those who were leaders in our church at the time.

We now understand and believe that the Bible teaches co-leadership with equal authority in each local assembly. Having multiple shepherds with God's heart and equal authority protects both Shepherds and sheep. Equal accountability keeps authority and doctrine in check. Multiple shepherds also provide teaching with various styles and giftings with leadership skills which are both different and complementary.

For a while we had two co-pastors (elders) (myself and one other man) who led the church with equal authority, but different giftings. We both taught in our own ways and styles, and our leadership skills were quite different, but complimentary. We were in complete submission to each other and worked side-by-side in the labor of shepherding the flock.

Our other Pastor has since moved on to other ministry which has left us with just myself. While we currently only have one Pastor/Elder, it is our desire that God, in His faithfulness and timing, may bring us more as we grow in maturity and even in numbers.

As to my home, I have been married since 1995 to my wonderful wife Terissa Woodson who is my closest friend and most trusted ally.

As far as my education goes, I grew up in a Christian home, but questioned everything I was ever taught.

I graduated from Bible college in 1990 and continued to question everything I was ever taught (I do not mention my college in order to avoid being labeled).

Perhaps my greatest preparation for ministry has been life and ministry itself. To quote an author I have come to enjoy namely Fredrick Buechner in his writing entitled, Now and Then, "If God speaks to us at all other than through such official channels as the Bible and the church, then I think that He speaks to us largely through what happens to us...if we keep our hearts open as well as our ears, if we listen with patience and hope, if we remember at all deeply and honestly, then I think we come to recognize beyond all doubt, that, however faintly we may hear Him, He is indeed speaking to us, and that, however little we may understand of it, His word to each of us is both recoverable and precious beyond telling." ~ Fredrick Buechner

Well that is about all there is of interest to tell you about me.

I hope our ministry here is a blessing to you and your family. I also hope that it is only a supplement to a local church where you are committed to other believers in a community of grace.

~God Bless!